Happy Monday everyone! It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to notice I’ve been a bit absent lately… if I listed all of the reasons it would unfortunately be one of the longest posts in the two and a half years I’ve been posting here at SAFTM. So I won’t. :) Suffice it to say there’s been quite a bit keeping us apart… I’ll post some catch-up posts about most of them over the next days and weeks though, hopefully as I start to get over each of the humps…
Friday was a big one though! It wasn’t a ton of money (about $1,000), but it took up a lot of time and brain energy. I’ve been battling the IRS since 2010 and finally convinced them that they messed up and I don’t owe them anything! Wahooo!
It all started in 2010…. it was a whole pile of stupid.
My wife and I pulled together our 2009 tax forms and sent them to our tax guy. We had our first kid in 2009 and my wife stayed home with him, so she only worked 6 months that year. Like any busy and dumb guy I just took the pile of everything and sent it to our tax guy without checking them. He put all the numbers together and sent me the docs to send in along with a BIG check. It was really scary – like over $10,000! But we moved from NY to NJ that year and I got a pretty good bonus at work, so we just wrote the check and moved on.
Three months later I get a letter from the IRS. They had my check, 1099s, W-2s and everything but lost my tax return. I asked my tax guy to resend it. A few months later I get the same letter. I asked my tax guy to resend it again. A few months later I get the same letter. I asked my tax guy to resend it yet again. Then I got a call from my tax guy.
He screwed up.
He found two W-2s for my wife in the pile we sent. Although they were obviously duplicates, he thought that my wife’s work just screwed up (because she worked almost exactly 6 months, so double the W-2 was about what she normally made). So he entered the larger amount. We hadn’t told him that my wife was a stay at home mom at that point. And I was so swamped at work I overlooked it too!
I know. I was dumb.
So my tax guy redid my taxes and we went a whole new return, along with a request for a $9,700 refund. A few months later I get a check for $9,700. The end, right?
Wrong. It was just the beginning.
Six months later I get a bill for a little over $1,000! The IRS apparently changed something on my return and their computer thought I owed them over $1,000 – yes this is right after they approved my revised return and sent me a check for almost $10,000!
Over the next year and a half I’d spend Countless hours on the phone, finding records and telling, and retelling, customer service reps about what happened. At one point, the IRS sent a letter to my work telling them to not honor my paycheck withholding deductions and withhold as if I was single with no dependents. (I’m married with two kids…). I got that one cleaned up pretty quickly, but it was a pain in the butt and probably didn’t make me look to responsible at the office…
Then Friday, finally – FINALLY – they say it’s “all set!” I was on the phone with a wonderful customer service rep who spent an hour and a half with me and was clearly committed to resolving the issue. She asked me to put her on hold and fax her some tax records. I did. She had her supervisor there reviewing my records and call history. She did.
And finally, the words I’ve been waiting to hear:
I’ve checked and rechecked your return and your Schedule A. The computer says there was a change made by the IRS on the Schedule A, but it doesn’t add up. I’ve requested authority to adjust your account so that it is zeroed out and this issue is resolved and final.
Then I got put on hold for a few more minutes. She comes back and says “you’re all set.” Awesome.
The best part of it is they were holding my 2010 tax refund of $950 hostage and it’s now going to be released to me. So I should be getting a nice little check in the next few weeks!
Incidentally, I was pretty surprised with the customer service I received throughout this. I made well over a dozen calls that lasted a long time. Not a single rep was anything but professional. There was one time where the rep was a little condescending, but it was more her “tone” than anything (and I may have been a little sensitive too…).
Overall a good day. I don’t usually count chickens before they hatch, grow up, get feathered, sliced up, breaded and deep fried. But I have faith in this one. I’ll let you know if it changes. But I’m confident that there’s one less burden over here. good times.
Anyone else have a tax issue they had to resolve? Is it just me or is their customer service better than most businesses?
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Man, when I read the title I just thought, “Nope, never argue with the IRS, just do what they say, you’ll never win.” But look at you! Sticking with it all and seeing this thing out to the end. Awesome, man!
TB at BlueCollarWorkman recently posted..Should You Go Against Fire Code When a Client Asks?
It definitely helped that I was very polite and respectful. But I was really surprised by the customer service reps – each one of them spent a ton of time trying to figure out the problem. And each time but the last they said something like “they must have seen something I don’t – I’ll have to send it back for review.”
The last time, the woman actually pulled someone with authority and said “this guy’s called in quite a few times and gotten nowhere but a referral that has lead nowhere – can we help him?” And they did!
Nick recently posted..Planning my retirement budget
That sounds like such a headache. I am so glad it is all fixed for you now !! And I’ve never had a problem with taxes, knock on wood.
Gillian @ Money After Graduation recently posted..I know a Real-Life Princess
Thanks! knock knock knock. Definitely learn from my stupidity and check everything twice!
Nick recently posted..The doom and gloom of investing in the stock market
I guess the part that surprised me was that you had originally overpaid the $9,700 but this never raised any red flags. Whenever I send my stuff off to the accountant, I always have a ballpark of what the final outcome will be, and I would definitely be noticing something was amiss if it was off by that much from my estimate. Scary.
Money Beagle recently posted..Have You Noticed Used Car Prices Coming Down?
You’re not kidding… it was probably one of my dumbest moments ever. Needless to say, it won’t happen again. I was so removed from when my wife stayed home that in my head the numbers didn’t seem off. It also didn’t help that I was working practically 9am to midnight for the two weeks before we filed – it was the worst of all worlds. And boy did I pay for it (in terms of time and hassle!).
Nick recently posted..When is the last time you bought something new?
Geez….that sounds crazy. So will you be finding a different tax professional? Or do you plan on doing them yourself in the future?!?!?
Holly@ClubThrifty recently posted..Saving Money, It All Adds Up…and a Giveaway!!!
I definitely plan on using someone different next year. I would have switched already but wanted this to be cleared up before I moved on and just paid a lot more attention to everything in the meantime. I have “one more stupid” that I need to get out of my life – rental property with a buddy that I bought 9 years ago before I “saw the light.” He uses the same tax guy as me, but also wants to switch. Coincidentally (?) he also is clearing up a tax issue, which he may have already cleared up. I think we’ll both be switching next year.
I also take some of the blame for this because I should have noticed the problem. But if the IRS hadn’t lost our return originally my tax guy would likely never have noticed the error (me neither), so in some ways I’m pretty happy about having to deal with this “IRS mess” (that rhymes). I would have been out $9700 if they hadn’t noticed it. That’s a lot of cash!
Nick recently posted..Extreme debt repayment: where’s the line?
Persistence pays. You hung in there and would not be deterred from getting the right and fair outcome. Congrats!
Question: Did you change tax guys?
Thad P @ thadthoughts.com recently posted..One Step To Prepare for Your Digital (After) Life
We’ve never had any issues with our taxes at all. This coming Spring, we plan on going to an accountant because we have online income and don’t want to miss anything. Do me a favor and tell us who you went to, so we can NOT go to them!
Glad your fight is finally over. That money will feel like pennies from heaven.
Michelle @ See Debt Run recently posted..Shortcuts to Financial Freedom
Congrats on getting this resolved!!! I hate loose ends and can just imagine the stress you felt getting all of this handled. Sorry. But yay for a great end to the story!
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Congrats on sticking through it!
As as a Canadian who work for a company that does a lot of business in the U.S., I’ve seen my fair share of IRS bullying or trying to for the lack of a better word, business owners into paying taxes or import fees on something that clearly is not there. We often have a laugh, and say “IRS needs to fill it’s yearly quota.”
Eddie recently posted..Responsible Holiday Party Hosting
Well done for sticking it out and getting the payout you deserved, I know too many people who woud just buckle and pay them even if they were wrong just to save the hassle.
Fred@Foxy Finance recently posted..10 Easy Ways to Save money
Dealing with the IRS is never fun but I am glad you were able to straighten out the mistake at the end. I do hope you also have records of all conversations. Because.. you just never know. Good luck!
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